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Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by Gwerfil ap DDwrfwy

Gwerfil ap DDwrfwy — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:04:05 +0000

Back to the Rat on the Rock!

Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by Gwerfil ap DDwrfwy

Gwerfil ap DDwrfwy — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:02:10 +0000

Well no artwork now, £200,000 down the pan that would have been spent local to make the project. It was only temporary, it could have been moved and now it’s non existent, so much for supporting the local economy.

It’s not the people of Cardigan who oppose it, it’s the vocal minority from outside of Cardigan.

DIOLCH O’R FYN NGHALON

Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by open minds

open minds — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:12:02 +0000

good art challenges us and makes us face our own closures.
great art makes us proud to be alive
- bad art is a waste of time-
no art makes us less than human.
I prefer great art - but i can live with good -

you have to decide for yourselves

yes I would go to see this project from england and yes i would spend money in the town

its not so much about whether the project fits cardigan - really the question is does the town fit the artwork

Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by clair

clair — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:26:24 +0000

i have just watched all four of the Big Art programmes on Channel 4 OD and feel quite morose about the current absence of openness within Cardigan compared to the other projects. In all of them people often had quite clear and firm views at the beginning of the project and in all of them, other than Cardigan, people seemed much more open to shifting their views - sometimes quite substantially. This was also true in the Cardigan programme with the former Mayor and other gentleman with the magnificent beard. There were two open meetings, the artist said he would not go ahead without a mandate, he got that mandate from the vote in the open meeting (and was quite obviously very moved that he did so) and then seems to have written a very respectful letter to Mr Rae addressing his concerns. So the current situation feels very sad indeed and perhaps says much more about local and personal animosities than about the art. I imagine it would be a thing of beauty to hear Mr. Rae and others mellifluous Welsh voices emanating from that soulful site. Let’s hope it may still happen…

Comment on Adroddiad amgylcheddol yn rhoi’r golau gwyrdd i Gynnwrf Aberteifi by Liam

Liam — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:23:42 +0000

Saw this on tv the other night, its amazing. Glad that you are getting it, i for 1 would love to come down from Scotland and see it.
Couldnt believe there was so many people against it.. considering all the other town and places on “big art” were very optimistic and open to just about anything. You have a load of backward folk there

Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by artlover

artlover — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 10:42:29 +0000

I am dismayed by the narrow-mindedness, obstinancy and total lack of imagination of these philistines from Cardigan. I echo the comments of the more intelligent postings here - this is a jaw-droppingly beautiful and innovative project. It is not Tracey Emin’s unmade bed for god sake! I am not one for stereotypes but I am tempted to agree that small towns breed small minds.

Comment on Cyfathrebu’n lleol ac yn fyd-eang – lansio gwefan Big Art Project Aberteifi by AndrewBoldman

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Comment on Adroddiad amgylcheddol yn rhoi’r golau gwyrdd i Gynnwrf Aberteifi by Ellie

Ellie — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:04:20 +0000

I am so glad the big art is going ahead.
I cant believe I live in a place so full of rude small minded individuals.

This artist is world renouned and we are incredibly lucky to have him working in our town. The ‘urban terrorist’ is obviously so small minded he cannot see what benifit this can have on the town.I hope you will also be protesting and damaging the castle if you are that adverse to change.

Its time to embrace the big art, be glad we were lucky enough to be picked and enjoy all the good things that come with it and stop focusing on small minded bigots.

Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by Su

Su — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:08:55 +0000

This is a beautiful project. I visited Cardigan briefly last year and thought it was a very lovely town, and can see that the artwork proposed would enhance the natural beauty of the place, and allow people to interact with it and spend time by the river.
From what I have seen on Channel 4 I feel that the artist has been respectful and inspired by the area… and also very patient!
Hopefully now that the environmental report has shown that fears for the local wildlife are negligible, the project can go ahead. If so, I will definitely be returning, with my family in tow. Congratulations.

Comment on LLYTHYR AGORED I ABERTEIFI ODDI WRTH RAFAEL LOZANO-HEMMER by Xamin

Xamin — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:37:31 +0000

There are several points that should be taken on board by some of these posters before they make any comment, as without this knowledge, they cannot justify their stance.

Take Ann’s comment above as an example. She talks of a minority of locals against the project. The number of signatories on a petition against it at over 4500, is actually numerically greater than the recorded local population, so it is not a minority, but a majority.

The essence of the Public Art project on Channel 4 is that the artwork should be chosen by the ordinary public. This was indeed the case for all of the other projects apart from Cardigan’s. That was chosen by Jim Evans and others on its steering committee who have a vested interest in it, precluding them from being labelled as members of the general public. In fact, there is a complaint in front of the Ombudsman along the lines that some on the steering committee were also on the planning committee and had not declared an interest and withdrawn from voting on it.

Rem Finchley’s comment might well be the most apposite of all, though. Might it be that Lozano-Hemmer deliberately chose the most provocative and controversial artwork he could, purely for selfish publicity for himself? If the piece is not allowed to proceed, headlines in the Art world will proclaim that the piece is unwanted by local Philistines. If it goes ahead but is then vandalised, it gets the same sort of attention. The piece plays back peoples’ voices, so almost certainly there will be obscene language recorded by it, therefore controversy again. He must have almost certainly considered that there would be protests from the Wildlife lobby too.

Jaume Plensa is told by the St Helens steering group that they are not happy with his Mining Lamp sculpture and goes away and comes up with something fanstastic instead. Lozano-Hemmer tells us that he has not enough imagination to rethink this artwork, despite the knowledge that a majority of the locals do not want it.

E-Angel begins by saying that the artist is not proposing something controversial, but something beautiful, thus losing any credibility in the first sentence. All the usual stuff that ensues about people being narrow minded if they are against it, that they will grow to love it once it’s there, that only the arty-farty brigade are qualified to know what we really ought to have as we do not know what is good for us, is the usual arrogant self-centred claptrap we have come to expect.

The brief of the Channel 4 Big Art project was that the artwork should be chosen by the local Public and approved by the local community. The Cardigan project failed to satisfy that criteria on both counts and then people wonder why the locals are angry.