Comments for Cardigan Big Art http://www.cardiganbigart.com Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:17:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on Big Art artist makes big waves in the art world by ysgol8b1ysgol http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/10/09/lang_enbig-art-artist-makes-big-waves-in-the-art-world-lang_enlang_cyarlunydd-yn-creu-argraff-yn-y-byd-celflang_cy/#comment-92 ysgol8b1ysgol Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:49:11 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=29#comment-92 Cardigan big art project “Turbulence” Cardigan’s big art project, A pleasant sight on land, Floating on the water, Shining big and grand. This project has divided, Cardigan and passers through, You either love or hate it, It’s all down to you. This project has some problems, It has swayed us left and right, Putting us in the middle, Starting up a fight. It’s pretty but it’s pointless, It’s grand but it’s twee, It’s bright but it’s boring, We’re sure that you’ll agree. Cardigan big art project “Turbulence”

Cardigan’s big art project,
A pleasant sight on land,
Floating on the water,
Shining big and grand.

This project has divided,
Cardigan and passers through,
You either love or hate it,
It’s all down to you.

This project has some problems,
It has swayed us left and right,
Putting us in the middle,
Starting up a fight.

It’s pretty but it’s pointless,
It’s grand but it’s twee,
It’s bright but it’s boring,
We’re sure that you’ll agree.

]]> Comment on Date for your diary…..Big Art public meeting set for September by David Allott http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/07/29/lang_endate-for-your-diary%e2%80%a6big-art-public-meeting-set-for-septemberlang_enlang_cydyddiad-i%e2%80%99r-dyddiadur%e2%80%a6cyfarfod-cyhoeddus-big-art-ym-mis-medilang_cy/#comment-86 David Allott Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:01:34 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=20#comment-86 I first found out about the unspoilt beauty of the River Teifi on a Fishing in Wales website and since the year 2000 I have visited the area very regularly to fish for salmon ans sewin. I make a point of spending money in the area as well as enjoying the peaceful surroundings. This art installation is a folly if it is to be placed in the Queen of Rivers. The sewin are highly sensitive to light conditions and disturbance and I emplore you to site the art work elsewhere. If I had known about the meeting in September I would have made my protest then but I have just heard about the project today on Radio 4 on the BBC 15th.Dec 2008. Please do not spoil one of the most beautiful rivers in Britain by installing plastic balls. Sincerely David Allott I first found out about the unspoilt beauty of the River Teifi on a Fishing in Wales website and since the year 2000 I have visited the area very regularly to fish for salmon ans sewin. I make a point of spending money in the area as well as enjoying the peaceful surroundings.
This art installation is a folly if it is to be placed in the Queen of Rivers. The sewin are highly sensitive to light conditions and disturbance and I emplore you to site the art work elsewhere. If I had known about the meeting in September I would have made my protest then but I have just heard about the project today on Radio 4 on the BBC 15th.Dec 2008.
Please do not spoil one of the most beautiful rivers in Britain by installing plastic balls.

Sincerely

David Allott

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by Barry http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-85 Barry Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:02:41 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-85 I feel sorry for the people of cardigan, that people want to subject them to this 'artwork'. I used to live near the river lee in cork, Ireland, and there was an on going exhibition of floating pieces of plastic, left by the students and youths of the city. Thankfully, these floating condoms didn't try to talk to me, like Loranzo-Hemmers art work will, if people are foolish enough to go ahead with the project, and waste money that could be used on public services, or to help homeless people, and people in need. I feel sorry for the people of cardigan, that people want to subject them to this ‘artwork’. I used to live near the river lee in cork, Ireland, and there was an on going exhibition of floating pieces of plastic, left by the students and youths of the city. Thankfully, these floating condoms didn’t try to talk to me, like Loranzo-Hemmers art work will, if people are foolish enough to go ahead with the project, and waste money that could be used on public services, or to help homeless people, and people in need.

]]> Comment on Big Art artist makes big waves in the art world by Bedd Gelert http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/10/09/lang_enbig-art-artist-makes-big-waves-in-the-art-world-lang_enlang_cyarlunydd-yn-creu-argraff-yn-y-byd-celflang_cy/#comment-84 Bedd Gelert Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:51:15 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=29#comment-84 This seems disingenuous to say the least. This is hardly as 'permanent' and as robust as the 'Angel Of the North'. And Christo it is not. What about 'ongoing maintenance' ? When Damien Hirst's shark springs a leak, there is usually a warranty to fall back on. What about this ? How will you prevent algal blooms and the 'balls' becoming discoloured. Why is plastic being used ? Aren't there enough synthetic oestrogens polluting our rivers as it is ? And how will canoeists be able to negotiate ? I am by no means a philistine when it comes to modern art. Antony Gormley is great. But this installation probably belongs in a museum, not the great outdoors ? Of course, because you have Channel 4 on board, it is very difficult for an opposing view to get the same level of 'meeja' exposure. This seems disingenuous to say the least. This is hardly as ‘permanent’ and as robust as the ‘Angel Of the North’. And Christo it is not.

What about ‘ongoing maintenance’ ? When Damien Hirst’s shark springs a leak, there is usually a warranty to fall back on. What about this ?

How will you prevent algal blooms and the ‘balls’ becoming discoloured. Why is plastic being used ? Aren’t there enough synthetic oestrogens polluting our rivers as it is ?

And how will canoeists be able to negotiate ?

I am by no means a philistine when it comes to modern art. Antony Gormley is great. But this installation probably belongs in a museum, not the great outdoors ?

Of course, because you have Channel 4 on board, it is very difficult for an opposing view to get the same level of ‘meeja’ exposure.

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by Manicstar http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-83 Manicstar Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:04:44 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-83 I for one am excited at the prospect of this project. Before this issue became public debate I had not heard of Loranzo-Hemmer, but since then I have researched his work, it is both beautiful and innovative. Not to mention of international renown! Cardigan has been fortunate to be given the opportunity to have a fascinating and unique piece of art. This will be invaluable to the regeneration of the town, encouraging more visitors. It is illogical to say that it is useless because there will be no businesses in the town to benefit. That is simply not true. I speak as the daughter of someone who has such a business in the town. In addition to this, I am concerned about the inference that this money could be spent on 'better' things. This again is not true. If this money is not used on this project, Cardigan will lose it and all benefit. Overall I get the sense that this protest has been largely fuelled by the jealousy a few local artists, and by uber-traditional crackpots. I have always been proud of cardigan, and its open-minded and accepting population. We should be welcoming this project and the artist to our beautiful town. This project is like no other attempted in Wales, it is something to be proud of. I for one am excited at the prospect of this project. Before this issue became public debate I had not heard of Loranzo-Hemmer, but since then I have researched his work, it is both beautiful and innovative. Not to mention of international renown!
Cardigan has been fortunate to be given the opportunity to have a fascinating and unique piece of art. This will be invaluable to the regeneration of the town, encouraging more visitors. It is illogical to say that it is useless because there will be no businesses in the town to benefit. That is simply not true. I speak as the daughter of someone who has such a business in the town.
In addition to this, I am concerned about the inference that this money could be spent on ‘better’ things. This again is not true. If this money is not used on this project, Cardigan will lose it and all benefit.
Overall I get the sense that this protest has been largely fuelled by the jealousy a few local artists, and by uber-traditional crackpots.

I have always been proud of cardigan, and its open-minded and accepting population. We should be welcoming this project and the artist to our beautiful town. This project is like no other attempted in Wales, it is something to be proud of.

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by admin http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-81 admin Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:21:59 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-81 Dear Xamin We have approved your recent comments so that the public may read your views and we are replying by saying that we are more than happy to discuss the various aspects of the Big Art project, your concerns and respond to your questions. This site has been set up to encourage public discussion and is available to all therefore we must act responsibly and continually monitor the comments and remove spam. We also reserve the right to edit or withhold messages if the content is insulting or offensive. We thank you for your understanding. Dear Xamin

We have approved your recent comments so that the public may read your views and we are replying by saying that we are more than happy to discuss the various aspects of the Big Art project, your concerns and respond to your questions.

This site has been set up to encourage public discussion and is available to all therefore we must act responsibly and continually monitor the comments and remove spam. We also reserve the right to edit or withhold messages if the content is insulting or offensive.

We thank you for your understanding.

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by Xamin http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-80 Xamin Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:21:37 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-80 When I posted the last post today, my previous post reappeared. My original post has not surfaced though. I will be keeping an eye on this and will take the action mentioned if these posts disappear. When I posted the last post today, my previous post reappeared. My original post has not surfaced though. I will be keeping an eye on this and will take the action mentioned if these posts disappear.

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by Xamin http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-79 Xamin Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:18:35 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-79 Right. My original post was critical of the project and asked whether a room of 100 individuals, 79% of whom voted for it constituted a mandate when viewed against 2500 local residents signing a petition against it. Despite admin's promise above that comments would not be removed, mine was. When I pointed this out in my post yesterday, that has also been removed. I will therefore be notifying the media who have thus far indicated interest in this project, that the website set-up to inform people of the project has a space where comments can be made about it, but choses to censor adverse comments despite denying that it does so. I will also be informing Channel 4 of your policy, as well as BBC Wales and the local press. Right. My original post was critical of the project and asked whether a room of 100 individuals, 79% of whom voted for it constituted a mandate when viewed against 2500 local residents signing a petition against it.

Despite admin’s promise above that comments would not be removed, mine was. When I pointed this out in my post yesterday, that has also been removed.

I will therefore be notifying the media who have thus far indicated interest in this project, that the website set-up to inform people of the project has a space where comments can be made about it, but choses to censor adverse comments despite denying that it does so. I will also be informing Channel 4 of your policy, as well as BBC Wales and the local press.

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by Xamin http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-78 Xamin Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:57:05 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-78 Jo Jackman is quite correct. There is indeed a policy of censoring some adverse comments on this project. I posted here after her to point out that the project could not realistically claim to have a mandate from a public meeting where 80% of just 100 individuals approved it, while a petition against it had gathered the signatures of well over half of the population of the town. What is the point of having a part of the site inviting comment when those adverse comments are removed? This smacks of the same arrogance and lack of democracy that has manifested itself elsewhere with this project. Watch and see how long it takes to erase this comment as proof. I'll be watching and reporting the results to interested parties. Jo Jackman is quite correct. There is indeed a policy of censoring some adverse comments on this project. I posted here after her to point out that the project could not realistically claim to have a mandate from a public meeting where 80% of just 100 individuals approved it, while a petition against it had gathered the signatures of well over half of the population of the town.

What is the point of having a part of the site inviting comment when those adverse comments are removed? This smacks of the same arrogance and lack of democracy that has manifested itself elsewhere with this project.

Watch and see how long it takes to erase this comment as proof. I’ll be watching and reporting the results to interested parties.

]]> Comment on Big thumbs up for Big Art in Cardigan by paul http://www.cardiganbigart.com/2008/09/04/big-art-cardigan/#comment-77 paul Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:16:25 +0000 http://www.cardiganbigart.com/?p=24#comment-77 Not sure what good it will do for the town but even on the artist website of Rafael Lozano-Hemmer he doesnt mention the river Tivy for his project. I say Pedestrianise the main bridge, do away with that horrible footbridge and do something with the bridge & castle, maybe some amazing lighting or a clock of some source with a beamed light with pictures of Cardigan dating back many years in the backround, NOT A RIVER FULL OF BALLS please x Not sure what good it will do for the town but even on the artist website of Rafael Lozano-Hemmer he doesnt mention the river Tivy for his project. I say Pedestrianise the main bridge, do away with that horrible footbridge and do something with the bridge & castle, maybe some amazing lighting or a clock of some source with a beamed light with pictures of Cardigan dating back many years in the backround, NOT A RIVER FULL OF BALLS please x

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